Get the size right and a logo looks professional; get it wrong and it looks lost or oversized. These are the standard embroidery dimensions used across workwear and uniforms, so you can size your design with confidence.
Standard placements and sizes
| Placement | Typical width | Typical height |
|---|---|---|
| Left chest (polo, shirt, jacket) | 75 to 100 mm (3 to 4 in) | up to ~90 mm (3.5 in) |
| Cap front | 100 to 125 mm (4 to 5 in) | 50 to 60 mm (2 to 2.25 in) |
| Sleeve | 50 to 75 mm (2 to 3 in) | Varies |
| Full back | 250 to 300 mm (10 to 12 in) | Varies |
Left-chest logos most commonly sit around 90 mm (3.5 in) wide. That's the figure to use if you only remember one.
Where it goes on the garment
For a left-chest placement, position the logo roughly 180 to 230 mm (7 to 9 in) down from the shoulder seam and about 100 mm (4 in) from the centre line, aligned with where a shirt pocket would sit. On a polo, line it up so it isn't hidden by the placket or collar.
Rough stitch counts
Stitch count drives both sew time and cost. As a ballpark for a left-chest logo:
- Simple text or a small mark: ~3,000 to 6,000 stitches.
- Typical logo with a few colours: ~6,000 to 12,000 stitches.
- Detailed crest or dense fill: 12,000+ stitches.
If your count is much higher than this for the size, the design is probably too dense or too detailed, simplify it rather than pushing the machine.
Size it before you digitize
Because embroidery is size-specific, always digitize at the size you'll actually stitch. The same logo digitized at 90 mm and then blown up to a back print will have gaps and thin coverage. In Embify, set the finished size first, then check the sew-out preview at that size, what you see is what the machine produces.
Finding the spot: a step-by-step method
The table gives you the numbers; here's how to actually hit them on a real garment. You'll need a tape measure, some chalk or masking tape, and the garment laid flat and buttoned.
- Find the vertical line. Measure down from the left shoulder seam, 180 to 230 mm depending on garment size (nearer 180 for small sizes, nearer 230 for XXL). Mark it.
- Find the horizontal line. Measure about 100 mm across from the centre of the placket (the button line) towards the wearer's left. Mark that too.
- Cross the marks. That crossing point is the centre of your design, not its top edge. A common mistake is treating it as the top corner, which drops the whole logo 45 mm too low.
- Sanity-check against the pocket line. If the garment has a pocket, or you imagine one, the logo should sit where the pocket would be. If your marks put it near the collar or drifting toward the armpit, re-measure.
- Pin a paper version on and look in a mirror, or on a willing colleague. Thirty seconds of looking catches what the tape measure misses.
Adjusting for the garment and the wearer
The standard numbers assume an average men's polo. Real orders aren't that tidy:
- Smaller and women's-fit garments: shift everything up and in, roughly 25 mm less drop from the shoulder, and consider scaling the logo down to 75 to 85 mm so it doesn't dominate a narrower chest panel.
- Kids' garments: scale the logo to 60 to 75 mm and re-digitize at that size rather than shrinking the adult file, small satin lettering needs its own pass.
- Jackets and fleeces: the same placement rules apply, but heavier fabrics carry slightly larger logos well, up to 100 mm. Zips move the centre line, so measure from the zip, not from a guessed centre.
- Hi-vis vests: placement is often dictated by the tape bands; the logo goes in the clear panel above or between them. Check with the supplier before assuming the standard drop.
Wide logos, tall logos and taglines
The 90 mm figure assumes a fairly standard horizontal logo. Shape changes the rules:
- Wide, letterbox-shaped logos (a word mark, say) can run 100 to 110 mm wide, because their height stays modest.
- Square or round logos should be sized by height instead: keep them under about 90 mm tall, which usually means 75 to 85 mm wide.
- Logos with taglines are the perennial problem. At 90 mm wide, a tagline under the mark usually lands around 3 mm tall: unreadable. Either use the version without the tagline (most brands have one) or accept a larger overall logo. There's no third option that works.
Whatever the shape, digitize at the final decided size. The preview will show you exactly how the smallest elements cope, which settles most sizing debates in about ten seconds.
Beyond the left chest: the full placement map
| Placement | Typical size | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Right chest | Same as left | Often a name or role opposite the logo |
| Sleeve | 50 to 75 mm | Reads sideways-on; bold marks only |
| Back yoke (below collar) | 60 to 100 mm | Popular for web addresses and secondary marks |
| Full back | 250 to 300 mm | Its own digitizing job, never a scaled-up chest file |
| Cap front | 100 to 125 mm wide | See the cap guide, caps have their own rules |
| Beanie fold | 50 to 75 mm | Keep it short; the fold area is shallow |
The placement kit worth keeping in a drawer
Shops that place logos consistently all keep some version of the same kit within arm's reach of the hooping station:
- A tape measure, obviously, plus tailor's chalk or a heat-erasable pen for marks that vanish.
- A card template per garment type: cut to the drop and offset measurements, hooked over the shoulder seam, mark through the hole, done in five seconds per garment.
- Paper printouts of the current logos at final size, for pinning on when a customer wants to 'just see it first'. This settles size debates faster than any conversation.
- A notebook (or a note on the phone) with every customer's placement numbers and thread shades, because reorders arrive when you've forgotten everything.
When a logo has to sit near a zip, a pocket seam or a chunky placket, hoop so the obstruction sits outside the frame and check the foot clears it on a slow trace. If it can't clear, move the design rather than fight the seam; a logo 10 mm further from a zip looks deliberate, a needle strike through one does not.
Worked example: a 40-garment order, planned in ten minutes
Say a landscaping firm orders 30 polos, 8 fleeces and 2 hi-vis vests. Here's the whole placement plan, the way an experienced shop would jot it down:
- Polos: logo at 90 mm wide, centred 200 mm below the left shoulder seam, 100 mm off the placket. One file, digitized on the polo (knit) preset.
- Small and women's-fit polos in the order: same file, positioned 175 mm below the seam instead. No re-digitizing needed, placement only.
- Fleeces: logo at 100 mm, digitized separately on the fleece preset (the pile needs different underlay), same drop measurements.
- Hi-vis vests: logo at 80 mm in the clear chest panel above the reflective band, lighter density, checked with the supplier that stitching there doesn't affect certification.
- Test garment: one polo sewn and approved before the run; the washed sample kept in a drawer for the reorder.
Total planning cost: two extra digitized files and one sacrificial polo. What it buys: forty garments that match, a reorder that matches them again next year, and a customer who assumes you've done this forever. The maths of looking professional is rarely this cheap.
Keeping a whole uniform order consistent
One logo on one polo is easy. Forty polos, some fleeces and a run of caps is where placement drifts, and drift is what makes a uniform order look amateur when the team stands together.
- Write the numbers down once: drop from shoulder, offset from placket, logo width, per garment type. A sticky note by the machine beats memory.
- Make a placement template. A piece of card cut to the drop-and-offset measurements, hooked over the shoulder seam, marks every garment identically in seconds.
- Digitize per garment type, once. One file for the polos, one for the fleeces, one for the caps, each at its own size with its own fabric settings, reused for the whole order and every reorder after it.
- Stitch the odd garment first. If the order has one XXL or one women's-fit small, place and stitch it early, while adjustments are still cheap.
Frequently asked questions
What is the standard left-chest embroidery size?
Most left-chest logos are around 75 to 100 mm (3 to 4 in) wide, with about 90 mm (3.5 in) being the most common.
How big should a cap logo be?
Cap fronts are usually 100 to 125 mm (4 to 5 in) wide and 50 to 60 mm (2 to 2.25 in) tall, because the usable area is limited by the cap panel and seams.
Can I resize an embroidery file after digitizing?
Only slightly. Small scale changes are usually fine, but large ones break the stitch density and coverage. For a very different size, re-digitize at that size.
Where exactly does a left-chest logo go?
Centre the design 180 to 230 mm down from the left shoulder seam and about 100 mm across from the button line, roughly where a shirt pocket would sit. Measure to the centre of the logo, not its top edge.
Should the placement change on women's-fit garments?
Usually, yes. Bring the logo up and in by roughly 25 mm and consider a slightly smaller design, 75 to 85 mm wide, so it sits in proportion to the narrower chest panel.
How can I check placement before stitching?
Print the logo at final size, cut it out, pin it to the garment and look in a mirror or at a colleague wearing it. It's the cheapest placement insurance there is, and it catches the mistakes a tape measure can't.
Same file for a polo and a full back?
No. A back design is three times the size and needs digitizing at that size, with its own density and underlay. Scaling a chest file up leaves gaps; scaling a back file down makes a stiff, dense patch.
If the shirt has a real pocket, where does the logo go?
On the pocket itself if it fits nicely, or centred just above it. What looks wrong is a logo floating beside a pocket; the eye expects them aligned.
Is there a rule for how far from the armpit?
Keep the design at least 50 mm clear of the side seam. Closer than that and it wraps the body's curve, which distorts the design when worn and makes hooping awkward.
Do names and logos go on the same side?
Convention puts the logo on the wearer's left chest and a name or role on the right, both at the same height so they read as a pair. Keep name lettering 6 mm or taller and it stays readable and stitches cleanly.
What size for a breast-pocket polo where the pocket is small?
Match the pocket, not the standard. A logo a few millimetres narrower than the pocket looks tailored; the standard 90 mm overhanging a small pocket looks like an accident. Measure the actual garment before digitizing.
Does placement change for zip-through jackets?
Measure the offset from the zip line instead of a guessed centre, keep the design clear of the zip tape, and check the hoop clears the zip pull. Everything else follows the standard drop.